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rus137
msg: 11

Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 7:01am

I know there are probuly alot more. But this is the one that I heard about first. I want to stop this community first so I can show the other polygamy communities a message. I am not gonna sit here while this thing keeps going on. I'll handle the rest of the communities after Colorado City. I'm still young and I have a lot of time on my hands.
NickCoons
msg: 12

Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 9:03am

Russ,

If you want to make it a mission to liberate the naive people of Colorado City from their oppressive lifestyle, I'm all for it.

First, we would need to ignore extremists like lolacollins that posted earlier, because this is a very skewed view of how it really is. I'm an Arizona
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native, and still live here (just outside of Phoenix). And though I've never been to Colorado City, I have probably done my homework on this a little more than a lot of people.

Back in the 1950s, then Governor Howard Pyle had hired detectives to investigate Colorado City (called Short Creek at the time). These detectives ultimately ordered a raid that resulted in the arrest of many polygamist men. The problem here is the media at this point is showing footage of broken families, children seperate from their parents, etc., which generated so much negative publicity for the governor that made it difficult for future administrations to take any action.

So as it sits now, law enforcement will not simply go into Colorado City without a complaint being filed, or unless they are witness to a crime, any more than they will investigate the break-in of your house without either them seeing it or you telling them about it. Frivolous lawsuit attorneys won't go after it because there's no money to be made. So the only ones left are people with good morals and ethics that usually don't have the means to even begin something like this.

My problem is not with polygamy as a concept. If a group of consenting adults all want to get married to each other, and they're not hurting anyone, then that's their business. The keywords here are "consenting" and "adults", neither of which applies to Colorado City. Very young girls (not adults) are coerced (not consenting) into a particular situation. This is where the problem is, and it's what needs to be attacked.

Some people are for allowing polygamist relationships, and some are against it; just as some are for gay relationships, and others are against it. So trying to get support to make a change based on that method alone is not going to happen. Someone needs to propose a change based on the fact that child abuse is occuring, because a vast majority of people (substantially more, anyway) would support something like this. It might be good to go in there with a team from children protective services and send a shockwave through their community.
rus137
msg: 13

Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 7:41pm

I don't know much about the polygamy or wut polygamy is. All i know is that there are innocent little girls who are being forced to marry old ass men. I mean these girls are 15 years old, if thats not abuse then i don't know what is. We need to stop this abuse thats going on and we need to stop it now. These girls are suffering and they don't know of a better life. Thats where I and whoever else wants to step in comes in. I wanna stop this abuse right now and I don't care who is there who wants 2 stop me.
NickCoons
msg: 14

Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 9:18pm

Russ,

<I don't know much about the polygamy or wut polygamy is.>

Polygamy is where you have multiple husbands or wives. Monogamy, what we're all familiar with, is when you have one husband or one wife.

<I wanna stop this abuse right now and I don't care who is there who wants 2 stop me.>

Sounds great! What's your plan?
rus137
msg: 15

Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 11:25am

Nick,
Ok maybe I don't have a problem with polygamy. If its part of what they believe in then Its ok. But whats not ok is the abuse that's going on in Colorado City. My plan is to let these girls, who are being forced to wed and bare children at a very young age, know that they have a choice. They don't have to do this if they don't want to. They have the right to say "no" if they don't want to wed or have sex with an older man. If any girl wants to escape from Colorado City then I will help them. And i won't stop until everyone is safe. I'm sure there are some people in Colorado City who are against all of the abuse that is going on, but maybe they are afraid of what might happen to them if they voice there opinion. I'm gonna stand by those people who are against the abuse and fight along there side. I'll let them know that they are not alone and I will always be there to see that this stops.

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